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Freddie deBoer's avatar

1. This kind of technology is inevitable and necessary. I'm glad Pangram exists.

2. Like just about every supportive piece on this topic, this one underestimates the technological challenges to what AI writing detection is doing. I think this is a vestige of the fact that wordcels are having these arguments, frankly. Pangrams one in 10,000 claimed false positive rate is impressive, but too many people are treating that as though it's indistinguishable from one in 1 million. A false positive rate of one in 10,000 means that every single day millions of false positives are being produced by humans beings. And I have no idea why discussing that basic technological reality is treated like a sign of bad faith.

3. Pangrams own founder has been much more cautious and limited in his claims then most of the boosters of his product. It's all very strange.

Hilary's avatar

Okay I’m at least somewhat persuaded by this reasoning, but that then nudged me to ask - Kelsey, what do you make of people who are overtly/publicly anti-AI but also using AI to do their writing?

Is it that their public position is performative? Cognitive dissonance? Viewing only their own use of AI as acceptable? (I’m skeptical of the last one because using AI to author whole essays goes way beyond using it for research — and I say this as someone who uses AI a ton).

I guess this just ties into a larger theme that I’ve been wondering about, which is how salient anti-AI / anti-data center views really are. It’s easy to oppose something on the internet, and slightly harder but not actually that much of a burden to show up to a city council meeting to scream nonsense at your local government… but when actual push comes to shove? Perhaps all these people using AI to write suggests something.

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